3.5" lift

[06 scrambler]

will the 3.5" nth degree lift be coming back at all

[AEV Dave]

At this time we are just focusing on getting the Nth 4.5 and 6" TJ systems and the new JK stuff up and running. Once that is done, we will revisit the possibility of other items like the 3.5"

dh

[redfrog]

That's too bad for us Highline owners, 3.5 is the perfect lift. Combined with a 1 1/4 " body lift, it's just what we need to run 37's.And we could show AEV loyalty by running all AEV products.

[JeepinJon]

That's too bad for us Highline owners, 3.5 is the perfect lift. Combined with a 1 1/4 " body lift, it's just what we need to run 37's.And we could show AEV loyalty by running all AEV products.

Couldn't you just run the 4.5" and get the same net effect, and possibly even better off road performance? I know there are a lot of people running the 1" body lift, but I personally would rather have the extra inch of suspension movement.

[rubclt]

I am running Highline with nth 3.5 springs and short arms, no BL and 35". I am planning to run 4.5 with LA as soon as I can buy new release of LA for my LJ and run 37". I use to run a SWB with LA and both 6" and 4.5" of lift... I am hitting the SA lower control arms a lot, and I am getting high centered with TT... I really thing 4.5" of lift with Highline is ideal, time will tell, still dailing in the LJ...

[redfrog]

Couldn't you just run the 4.5" and get the same net effect, and possibly even better off road performance? I know there are a lot of people running the 1" body lift, but I personally would rather have the extra inch of suspension movement.

You could run the 4.5 without the body lift , But I need the BL for the TT and gas tank skid. Maybe just run them both.

[Mieser]

The Tummy Tucker doesn't require a body lift. I would just lower the gas tank a hair to get everything to clear. Running an inch of body lift just for that isn't worth it.

I think the 3.5 lift is just about perfect too. That and the Highline kit should allow 37s without anything other than properly adjusted bump stops.

The biggest downfall with the long arm system is weight. That kit has to add another 200-300 lbs to the jeep when its installed!

Weight on jeeps adds up TOO fast......

[rubclt]

The Tummy Tucker doesn't require a body lift. I would just lower the gas tank a hair to get everything to clear. Running an inch of body lift just for that isn't worth it.

I think the 3.5 lift is just about perfect too. That and the Highline kit should allow 37s without anything other than properly adjusted bump stops.

The biggest downfall with the long arm system is weight. That kit has to add another 200-300 lbs to the jeep when its installed!

Weight on jeeps adds up TOO fast......


How did you come up with your weight estimate, seems a little high to me. You remove 8 SA and frame brackets and replace with stinger and four LA an LA plate... What am I missing...

[Mieser]

I installed the Nth long arm on my best friends jeep. The parts from the Nth degree kit are MUCH heavier than the stock parts. The control arms are super heavy duty compared to stock. The brackets throughout the kit are made of much heavier than stock material.

I'm not saying the the long arm kit doesn't perform well or isn't a great kit. It's just that the long arm systems are generally taller than needed a lot of time and the weight adds up super quick on buildups.

To each his own....everyone has a different jeep.

[AEV Jim]

This is not an exact number, but from what I recall the Nth LA system adds a net of about 150# to the Jeep. As rubclt mentioned there are a lot of take-off parts to subtract and they do help the equation. For example, most TT's weigh about 63#, but the stock TJ center skid it replaces can weigh up to 41#, so the net gain for a TT is never more than a mere 22#. The biggest place the weight coming off is tiny compared to the weight going back on is in the arms themselves: a 16"L stamped sheetmetal arm weights a lot less than a 36"L 2"OD Chromoly tube, but that's what you want/need for the use a LA suspension should/could see off-road...even so, an Nth front longarm weighs only about 16# with the bushing included...

-Jim

[builditup25]

At this time we are just focusing on getting the Nth 4.5 and 6" TJ systems and the new JK stuff up and running. Once that is done, we will revisit the possibility of other items like the 3.5"

dh

O man. I was not expecting the SA 3" to not be one of the items put back into quick reproduction.
Ha I have just been waiting for its release.
What other suspension packages would you recommend for SA 3" height, no BL?

[AEV Jim]

Well builditup25, I think you can rest easy...depending on what your desired timeline is. It's not that we don't intend to bring the SA systems back, it's just that they were not prioritized vs. the longarm systems which accounted for well over 90% of Nth's system sales. You're not alone in wanting an Nth SA system and the semi-obvious truth is that many of the components (springs, especially) are shared between the SA and LA systems...and the truth is that we probably have the parts needed to build one (don't hold me to that!)...but the main issue is that we haven't had the time to make sure that the 'system' for boxing, selling, and shipping one correctly is in place.

If you can hold on a little bit past the re-launch of the LA systems, we should be able to get you a 3" SA system once we have a chance to make sure we're ready...maybe not the answer you wanted, but better than having to settle for something else! :)

-Jim

[builditup25]

Alright sounds like good news. I will just wait it out. Thanks!

[06 scrambler]

i'll be waiting also

[gellio]

Ok guys Ill give you my 2 cents. I ran a 3" SA Nth kit for a year on my 2005 TJ and loved it. Just this last summer I installed the rear Nth spring relocators in the rear and accos up front netting me a total of 4.5". I now run 35" Trxus MT's with Bilstein 5100's and love it. The rear spring relocators made my rear spring compression more fluid and improved my articulation tremendously. On or offroad they are a great addition. If you just look at your rear spring at ride height you will see the arch they have. When you compress them this is exagerated. With the relocators your springs are straight up and down as they should be. The 3"SA with the addition of the spring relocators (and front spring spacers) nets the 4.5" SA. I would never go back to the 3" SA after this install. I loved both! but love the increased articulation and comfort of the 4.5" Many people in my club have noticed the capability difference of my rig this summer. Remarks like "how come he does that so easy" have been heard more than once. Nth's suspension geometry correction lifts are TOPS!
By the way my use of front accos spring spacers at $240- was a waste. They are fully collapsed no adjustment was needed. Nth coil spacers would have been just fine.