JK Rear Bumper

[JeepinJon]

I was wondering if there was an update, or any pictures yet of the JK rear bumper. On the other forum I belong to there was a lot of talk about SEMA this year and it being released, but it wasn't there :(. I know that there is a ton of people anxiously awaiting this release, similar to last year with the front bumper. Keep up the good work:).

[AEV Dave]

Hang Tight, its going to be first quarter till the bumper and tire carrier are released. We're putting a lot of time into the development of the tire carrier to avoid the pitfalls of most.

dh

[JeepinJon]

I will be paitently waiting on the edge of my seat.:D

[Mowabb]

I am not as patient, but I guess I will have to wait... :(:(:(

[Jdemonto]

Perfect..can't wait!

Jason

[Totenkopf]

Hoping the tire carrier attaches to the rear door with a pivot so it doesn't need to be opened separately from the door.

[Mowabb]

Any chance of a peek of what it will look like?

[lightning]

Hoping the tire carrier attaches to the rear door with a pivot so it doesn't need to be opened separately from the door.Ditto on this, have them seperate right now on my TJ and it bites.

[JeepinJon]

Hoping the tire carrier attaches to the rear door with a pivot so it doesn't need to be opened separately from the door.

x3 as long as it doesn't put the weight on the door. Also if it can incorporate a locking mechanism to hold it open when we are not on level ground.

[rubicontrail.net]

Cool, hopefully it will be ready by the time I figure out how to save enough cash to add an AEV JK to my Jeep collection.

I agree it needs to open with the rear door and an optional locking mechanism would be great.

Hopefully it will match the smooth factory-like lines of the AEV front bumper.

[JeepinJon]

I also would like to see a high lift jack mount, and a antenna mount for a CB if we can add to a wishlist of what we want.

[Mowabb]

x2 on the Hi-Lift and antenna mounts.

[JeepinJon]

Also it would be nice to have the option of a rear winch mount.

[lightning]

Ready to buy when it's done :D

[Mowabb]

Ready to buy when it's done :D
x2...
but I am not very patient...

[Tufjeep]

Hi everybody,

New to the JK Forum, but excited about getting a new JK from AEV. I've been reviewing other manufacturers JK rear bumpers and tire carriers also. The ones I liked the most were from Rockhard 4x4, Durango 4x4 and ARB. They all seemed to be of high quality and follow the design lines of the JK. What I've been looking for was what I have now on my 03 Rubi. I have a Bulletproof rear bumper and swingaway tire carrier. Very good quality and excellent durability. It has the hi-lift jack, cb antenna, and gas can mounts. I would love to see those mounts on the new AEV JK rear bumper and tire carrier. Of those 3 manufacturers I mentioned, Rockhard 4x4 and Durango 4x4 had those options. Dave, if you read this, I'm sure what you're designing will meet most of our needs out here. Looking forward to next year! :)

Mike

[JeepinJon]

I am just looking forward to a stamped design, just seems to go with the lines of the JK better.

[Tufjeep]

I agree with you Jon on the stamped design. The straight across bumpers like Bulletproof or Body Armor wouldn't look that good on the JK. I'm hoping AEV will have their rear bumper ready by spring or summer, when I get ready to buy. :):)

[AEV Dave]

I think you guys will like what we're doing.

dh

[Mowabb]

I think you guys will like what we're doing.

dh
Dave, I know you indicated the bumper and tire carrier will be released in the 1st quarter. Can you be any more specific? I should get my Jeep delivered from you withing the next two weeks. I am not too excited about hanging the 37 from the rear door for very long. Any more info would be greatly appreciated.

[0317_guy]

Looking forward to the stamped steel design. What is the estimated weight for the rear bumper/tire carrier?

[AEV Dave]

Its now our standard policy to not release any expected dates. Our new policy is to only release products once they are in the warehouse ready to ship. We've taken way too much of a beating everytime we release an expected date and things get hung up. Which for some reason only happens when there are a ton of people waiting for a product.

dh

[JeepinJon]

Its now our standard policy to not release any expected dates. Our new policy is to only release products once they are in the warehouse ready to ship. We've taken way too much of a beating everytime we release an expected date and things get hung up. Which for some reason only happens when there are a ton of people waiting for a product.

dh
I am sure that even without an expected release date you will still take heat because of the high demand, people will be mad when they get backordered, but this is shortly forgotten when the produuct arrives. You can't please all people all the time. Keep up the good work.

[Tufjeep]

Thanks for the update Dave! I agree with Jon about having patience because the end product will be well worth it. I waited a bit for my AEV Rock Sliders due to a production problem, but believe me, it was well worth it. So hang in there guys!!

[0317_guy]

Its now our standard policy to not release any expected dates. Our new policy is to only release products once they are in the warehouse ready to ship. We've taken way too much of a beating everytime we release an expected date and things get hung up. Which for some reason only happens when there are a ton of people waiting for a product.

dh

I don't mind waiting for a product at all. As long as it is top quality and value I will waite untill hell freezes over if I have to. Are you able to tell us what the bumper with tire carier weight in pounds is going to be?

[kntr]

Some pics so we can preorder? :):)

[boots]

Seems like everyone is like me. Trying to get ANY information on AEV's rear bumper. I had e-mailed them about 4 times with no RESPOSE at all. I just wanted to now if they are truely going to make the rear bumper and tire rack I did'nt even ask for a date or photo just if it was realy in the works.

Then I seen that they had this forum, guess now I know it's being made but still nothing in the way of design. I don't need a picture at this point just if the rear bumper will be a one piece with the tire rack on bumper or if the tire rack will mount on tailgate.

[AEV Dave]

Sorry guys, we've caused too many problems in the past by releasing pictures or taking pre-orders before we were done with development and ready to ship. Its our new policy to not release anything until its in the warehouse ready to go. Its the opposite extreme I know, but we feel customers will benefit more by being able to actually order a product and receive it quickly than to cause a bunch of stir and drag people along.

dh

[JeepinJon]

Sorry guys, we've caused too many problems in the past by releasing pictures or taking pre-orders before we were done with development and ready to ship. Its our new policy to not release anything until its in the warehouse ready to go. Its the opposite extreme I know, but we feel customers will benefit more by being able to actually order a product and receive it quickly than to cause a bunch of stir and drag people along.

dh

I would prefer this kind of a policy over many of the other manufacturers. I know of several manufacturers that have been allowing people to backorder items from SEMA 2006 that still aren't ready to ship (tube fenders, rockers, you name it). I would rather have a company that is willing to wait to take my money until they can actually deliver me a finished product rather than a promise that I will get it some day. :rolleyes:

[tazman66gt]

Will the new rear bumper incorporate spots for fuel cans and a high lift jack?

[JeepinJon]

Will the new rear bumper incorporate spots for fuel cans and a high lift jack?

I know it will have provisions to attacht a High Lift jack, but I have heard nothing about the Jerry / fuel cans.

[MC4X4]

Any idea on when this might be released. month, quarter.
cheers mc

[Zeero]

Looking forward ;)

[MC4X4]

how much longer, and any spy shots

[cshontz]

We could sure use Brenda Priddy at a time like this. ;)

[AEV Dave]

Exactly why we do all of our prototype stuff in MT, too far out of the way for Brenda!

dh

[jsmoriss]

Is there _any_ hope for a rear bumper in the near future? A few friends have given up on the AEV rear bumper and bought something else, but I've been holding out -- until now. If I'm going to have a decent bumper for this year's off-road season, I have to pull the trigger soon. Is there any chance we could have an AEV rear bumper in our hands sometime in Q2?

js.

[Ubermoose]

I have absolutely no inside information, but I would wait until after Easter Jeep Safari before making any purchasing decisions. EJS is a time of year that brings with it the availability (or least the public release) of new products for our beloved earth roamers.

On the other hand: Dave, we're getting restless... hurry up man :)

Rob

[jsmoriss]

Well, I might give up and buy the Expedition One rear bumper. I love my AEV front bumper, and would really like a matching rear -- with jerry can mounts and hi-lift mount, but there's no way to know if AEV's design will offer these features. I could wait until the last minute and then find out the AEV rear bumper won't have jerry can mounts or something (an essential feature for me). I don't see the big deal about letting customers know when they can expect certain parts. How are we to plan our upgrades without this info?

js.

[AEV Dave]

Guys,

Let me see if I can explain our policy regarding releasing new product before its "in a box" The problem with telling people when they can expect certain parts is that it either a)locks us into a time line in which we might have to cut development short to achieve the goal b) gets people upset if we aren't satisfied with a design and choose to extend the development period...or c) (worst of all) finish the design and are in the process of "getting it in a box" when we have whatever type of supplier issue, anything from the wrong bolt to a bad batch of coating...either way it is a fact of life and makes us look bad to the end user when things are delayed and customers have made plans around the product.

As much as I hate to say this, I would rather a potential AEV customer purchase an existing product from a competitor than be unhappy with us waiting for a future product. We've definitely made these sorts of mistakes in the past, only to have customers upset with us, when all we are trying to do is make the customer happy with a quality product.

That being said, I will say that the bumper is behind in development, mostly due to a couple other JK products coming out in the next few weeks (like the snorkel), but that it is back on track as the number one new item we are working on.

dh

[kntr]

I would think there is a higher demand for a rear bumper than a snorkel but maybe its just me.

[somewhereinla]

Hey, it's Dave's company, if he wants to do a snorkel before a bumper, his choice. The fact is there are plenty of very good bumpers outhere to choose from for the JK but not too many good snorkel solutions... I am glad AEV has one that's well designed and easy to put on.

[JeepinJon]

If you want something bad enough it will be worth the wait. I am all for the snorkel, and am waiting for all the items to make my jeep the way I want including the Nth suspension. Sometimes you just have to have paitence.

[kntr]

I wasnt trying to be a smart a$$... just making an observation from all the posts on all the forums.

[tazman66gt]

Everyone knows that once the bumper comes out it will be done right, just a little anxious to have something new to drool over :D Though I must admit I don't have a JK yet, still waiting on a job to come through so I can spend my money buying something else to drive other then a Focus :eek:

[putnam dan]

Perhaps AEV is waiting to see what can be done differentl on a rear bumper to make it stand out from the croud

[njjeepthing]

Perhaps AEV is waiting to see what can be done differentl on a rear bumper to make it stand out from the croud

Like a rear winch mount!:D

[JeepinJon]

Like a rear winch mount!:D

I am hoping for this as well, but at the same time it would just mean that I would need to buy a second winch. I would also like to see their third brake light incorporated as well.

[markm]

Hang Tight, its going to be first quarter till the bumper and tire carrier are released. We're putting a lot of time into the development of the tire carrier to avoid the pitfalls of most.

dh

OK as of April 1st we are into the second quarter!!!! Sure would like to get the matching bumper for my ride.

[boots]

I know that this question is getting redendant, but any more information on the rear bumper, Anything at all ?

[JeepinJon]

I know that this question is getting redendant, but any more information on the rear bumper, Anything at all ?

You know that if you get something else because you get tired of waiting, the day it arrives the AEV bumper will be released, so can you just get something else so the rest of us can get an AEV rear. :D

[boots]

Yep, your right. Iam close to pulling the trigger on another rear bumper. But like you stated, the day I do pull the trigger is when the AEV would be released.

So I will just be a pain in the butt untill then. :rolleyes:

[boots]

Well just could'nt wait any longer. Returned my AEV Front bumper and pulled the trigger on a pair of ARB bumpers. (Deluxe Front and Rear)

So you guy's can keep on waiting and someday you will get the bumper of your dreams, Maybe.

Because of not even getting an idea of what the rear bumper from AEV will look like I could'nt justify waiting for something this long and then finding out I don't even care for the way it looks. Their was just to many other options out there.

Keep up the good work AEV. I like your products but hate the wait.....

[kntr]

No spare carrier on the ARB though.

I hear ya on the waiting bit. I just went with the Mopar.

[markm]

Well just could'nt wait any longer. Returned my AEV Front bumper and pulled the trigger on a pair of ARB bumpers. (Deluxe Front and Rear)

So you guy's can keep on waiting and someday you will get the bumper of your dreams, Maybe.

Because of not even getting an idea of what the rear bumper from AEV will look like I could'nt justify waiting for something this long and then finding out I don't even care for the way it looks. Their was just to many other options out there.

Keep up the good work AEV. I like your products but hate the wait.....

Too bad I already installed mine. I'm seriously thinking of selling mine and going the ARB front and rear route also. In my business they call this kind of behavior "vapor ware". Promising something and never delivering. Not even advanced "spy" pictures ..... I do understand the problems of promising something and then not being able to deliver on time .......but no development pic's or anything?????? WTFO? Is there really a rear bumper in development or not?

[AEV Dave]

Guys,

We completely understand the frustration of not having the AEV Rear Bumper available and can appreciate the reason for going with a different bumper since ours isn't available. It is our position that we would still rather that happen than put out a date that is too easy to miss on our part which really hurts customer satisfaction. That being said, the bumper development is coming along well. As soon as we hit our design freeze we may post some concept pictures.

dh

[bluepwr]

make sure you email those that have purchase from AEV so they can have the name firs on the list.

[JeepinJon]

make sure you email those that have purchase from AEV so they can have the name firs on the list.

I am sure that if you get on the mailing list they will send you a message.

[HayashiK1]

I can not wait until AEV Rear Bumper comes out.....

[Jdemonto]

Man, Give Dave a break! Look at the first thread, Aev did not initiate this thread and have false promises.

Reread it...

BTW I am 100% sure that knowone will be disapointed with the way the AEV rear bumper looks. I am 110% satisfied with all my Dealings with AEV and will purchase more swag in the future

Jason

[JeepinJon]

Man, Give Dave a break! Look at the first thread, Aev did not initiate this thread and have false promises.

Reread it...

BTW I am 100% sure that knowone will be disapointed with the way the AEV rear bumper looks. I am 110% satisfied with all my Dealings with AEV and will purchase more swag in the future

Jason

I know I started it, but if you want something bad enough you will wait. There were some people with no paitence and bought the first of everything for the JK, and fortunately I am not one of those people. The longer you wait the better stuff usually is, and I am looking forward to something that matches the front. I know I am hoping for a hinge similar to the Expedition 1 bumper (not that it really matters what I want) where it is connected to the swing gate, only better looking, and I am sure better built.

[HayashiK1]

Man, Give Dave a break! Look at the first thread, Aev did not initiate this thread and have false promises.

Reread it...

BTW I am 100% sure that knowone will be disapointed with the way the AEV rear bumper looks. I am 110% satisfied with all my Dealings with AEV and will purchase more swag in the future

Jason

Jdemonto,

First, please let me apologize for forgetting that my tone of voice and body language do not come across typed messages.

My intent was not to express dissatisfaction. As a matter of fact, I meant I was looking forward to it coming out whenever that may be.

I am completely satisfied with AEV as well. I will have my AEV Rubicon with Base Package, Lights, and Winches delivered to me sometime next week. I am already planning on my lift, tires, and gears from AEV in the near future. I am looking forward to everything AEV is designing to come out because I can tell that they will do it right. It's just awesome to watch people with skills do their thing!!

[Jdemonto]

Jdemonto,

First, please let me apologize for forgetting that my tone of voice and body language do not come across typed messages.

My intent was not to express dissatisfaction. As a matter of fact, I meant I was looking forward to it coming out whenever that may be.

I am completely satisfied with AEV as well. I will have my AEV Rubicon with Base Package, Lights, and Winches delivered to me sometime next week. I am already planning on my lift, tires, and gears from AEV in the near future. I am looking forward to everything AEV is designing to come out because I can tell that they will do it right. It's just awesome to watch people with skills do their thing!!


No need to apologize to me!! I think its cool to see AEV has a forum until now they have been pretty quiet on forums and likely because of posts that reflect anger or poor mouthing. I understand I have been there with forums and learned they can be your best friend or worst enemy when it comes to business. I am inching twards a JK and likely a AEV JK!!

Jason

[Ivanko]

Trust me, no one would like a new rear bumper more than me:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j51/Ivanko33/JK/05122008bumper001.jpg

Someone not concerned with karma did a hit and run. I'm waiting patiently because I know the AEV bumper will be the best one out there when released.

[jsmoriss]

Any news on the AEV rear bumper?

js.

[offroader613]

I've been wondering that also.

[JeepinJon]

I haven't heard or seen anything on this yet. Usually when something is happening I know quickly since I know several people in Missoula that contact me as soon as they see something when they are by AEV. :(

[offroader613]

I just want a pic so I can use it for some of my JK sketches.

[BigPines]

I was thinking about buying a JK from AEV but I don't think I want to do it until the rear bumper is ready. BTW, I hope it has an integrated tow receiver.

It has been quite some time since this thread was started and no recent activity. Any update AEV?

Mike

[somewhereinla]

It's really amazing to me how much emotional some people get regarding the AEV rear bumper. With all that's happening in the world... I really have a really difficult time understanding why some people get so excited and so focus about a bumper. Guys this isn't a cure for cancer... it's a "bumper", a "bumper" for god's sake... I don't even really get the whole thing about having matching bumpers... first all bumpers look pretty much the same. Sure some are better made or more practical, but they all look pretty much the same... and when your jeep is cover in mud, the certainly all look exactly the same...LOL.
If you need a rear bumper either be patient or get another brand, they are plenty of great rear bumpers out there.

[Explore]

Ok, so you get onto the AEV (forum) website and ask us not to ask the status of a product we are waiting for? Huh, I figured this was the prime goal for this.. Just to throw you a little insight, Having bought a few aftermarket pieces in order to settle for something I could not receive at that time -has taught me one thing.. It's better to wait for the most reliable product on the market.
And yes, I understand there is alot going on in the world -trust me I am in the company of those who defend us.. But it's things like this (Jeepin') that keep us focused.
AEV keep trucking! sorry to throw the obvious out there..

[Woodchuck]

Any update...Apparentley the Hemi conversion got pushed to the front of the line and I am wondering where the rear bumper is on the list of development ideas?

[trucco]

Word is that it will be out for SEMA on November.

[buster04]

Word is that it will be out for SEMA on November.

I just pray it has a tire swing!

[JeepinJon]

I just pray it has a tire swing!

I am sure it will, but I am hoping they tie it into the swing gate like Expedition One so that you can just open the swing gate.

[Rock Your 4x4, Inc.]

Adding to this post:

We're waiting in Tennessee too!

[buster04]

I just hope it also comes bolt on ready. No need to drill, etc..

It would also be cool if some AEV decals were thrown in..hehe

[BigPines]

I just pray it has a tire swing!
Kent confirmed with me today that it will have a tire swing. I didn't glean any other details.

Mike

[JeepinJon]

I have heard SEMA this year is when it will debut, and that is only a little over 2 months away. :D

[BigPines]

I have heard SEMA this year is when it will debut, and that is only a little over 2 months away. :D
Yeah, I have a JK on order for an AEV build. I hope this bumper is available in time!!!

Mike

[offroader613]

I can't wait to see it, we are thinking of getting a JK and if the money is right, we might just order one from AEV.

[markm]

Hang Tight, its going to be first quarter till the bumper and tire carrier are released. We're putting a lot of time into the development of the tire carrier to avoid the pitfalls of most.

dh

AEV Dave ..... Did you mean the first quarter of 2009? If the length of time that it is taking to create this bumper is any indication of its quality. That is really going to be one NICE bumper.

-mm

[buster04]

Come on we got to be able to see some photos? This is not the CIA..

[offroader613]

even a teaser or rendering wouldn't be bad, but you can't rush quality.

[JeepinJon]

even a teaser or rendering wouldn't be bad, but you can't rush quality.

From what I have heard it will be at SEMA, only a little over 7 more weeks :D

I have not heard this from AEV, but from other sources have said this. It would make sense since it has been 2 years since AEV was a SEMA with their own booth and I have heard they will have their own booth again this year, but when I looked them up on the SEMA site it isn't showing them as having their own booth:confused:

[Explore]

8 weeks -SEMA, 7 weeks -SEMA, I also knew the birthdays of my sons too.. The bumper -like everything else must be worth waiting for..BUT I did get a sonagram of the boys before THEY were "released"... hint~ CAD pict? napkin sketch?

[BRICKTOP]

This bumper is going to be AWESOME!
I have the M.O.R.E. right now and love it...but it's getting ditched VERY quickly when this is released.
I'm going to order a bunch of em for the dealership too. I think a LOT of people are going to fall in love with this thing when they see it....not that I've seen it, just basing it on what I've been told. I can't wait!
See you at SEMA!

[JeepinJon]

This bumper is going to be AWESOME!
I have the M.O.R.E. right now and love it...but it's getting ditched VERY quickly when this is released.
I'm going to order a bunch of em for the dealership too. I think a LOT of people are going to fall in love with this thing when they see it....not that I've seen it, just basing it on what I've been told. I can't wait!
See you at SEMA!

I think that there have been more sightings and information on Sasquatch and Nessie than on this bumper. :D;)

[Ivanko]

1. AEV releases pics of what they have so far, which is probably a lot
2. Competition sees pics, changes design just slightly, rushes to bring rear bumper to market
3. AEV loses sales.

[JeepinJon]

1. AEV releases pics of what they have so far, which is probably a lot
2. Competition sees pics, changes design just slightly, rushes to bring rear bumper to market
3. AEV loses sales.

I am not upset about having to wait. I will just continue to wait patiently since I want to run the 4" Nth lift, and I don't want to do that until I have a bumper to hang a 37" tire on.

[BRICKTOP]

It takes AEV a while to get their new products on the market, but when they do, they're done right. I'd rather wait a little longer and have something that looks like it's had some thought put into it than get something quickly that looks like it was a poorly drawn sketch brought to life.

How many companies out there could help me make my rig look this cool....and be able to drop a hemi into it! (some day....)

424

[Ivanko]

It takes AEV a while to get their new products on the market, but when they do, they're done right. I'd rather wait a little longer and have something that looks like it's had some thought put into it than get something quickly that looks like it was a poorly drawn sketch brought to life.

How many companies out there could help me make my rig look this cool....and be able to drop a hemi into it! (some day....)

424

That looks TOUGH with the top off and the half doors on--THUMBS UP!!

[Jdemonto]

It takes AEV a while to get their new products on the market, but when they do, they're done right. I'd rather wait a little longer and have something that looks like it's had some thought put into it than get something quickly that looks like it was a poorly drawn sketch brought to life.

How many companies out there could help me make my rig look this cool....and be able to drop a hemi into it! (some day....)

424

Very nice jeep and you are right!

Jason

[JeepinJon]

I know I am patiently waiting. My wife got very confused though since it is on my Christmas list, and when she went to order it on their website it wasn't listed.:D

[BRICKTOP]

Thanks! I love this thing.
Can't wait for the rear bumper!

[Summit Jeep]

I am curious if it will have the design feature of the factory rear bumper in that it will wrap around to the flares. I know some do not like this and want more clearance but I am a fan of it because it gives me a step when I need to get to my overhead rack. I would hate to lose that.

John
08 JK
Summit County Colorado

[j33per]

This thread has received by far the most views (10,303) in this JK section of the AEV forum! I guess it shows what interest there is in AEV's rear bumper launch!

I had my JK built by AEV and would love to be able to fit an AEV rear bumper as my stock one is starting to show a few battle scars. The alternative rear bumper for me is the one by Expedition One out of Utah which has a very neat tyre carrier.

AEV Dave, can you please tell me whether yours is going to incorporate a tyre carrier and is there an ETA for the bumper?

[JeepinJon]

I am hoping AEV can find a way to make a tire carrier like Expedition One. I like how it opens with the door as one unit instead of two separate items.

[AEV Dave]

Tire carrier will be optional. We're in the final design stages now, but its still to early to release ETA. The latest version will be produced in the next few weeks, tested and then released. The rear tire carrier has been an interesting design challenge, perhaps the most difficult of all the JK products.

AEV Dave

[JeepinJon]

Do you know if it will have an attachment for a CB? I am planning on installing the Cool Tech antenna mount next weekend with my AEV corner guards, but if it will have a mount I will wait.

[markm]

So the unveiling of the bumper at SEMA are false? That really must be one complicated bumper. On the plus side I have had many months to save the $$.

[AEV Dave]

Unfortunately, we are going to miss our SEMA debut, not by much though.

dh

[somewhereinla]

The rear tire carrier has been an interesting design challenge, perhaps the most difficult of all the JK products.

AEV Dave

I can totally believe that. I know you are not ready to show it, but can you describe some of the challenges you were facing. Is the rear bumper going to be somewhat modular, where you can add or remove accessories easily, which is really what is lacking in most design I have seen to date...

[j33per]

As long as I can order one before March 09 (and have it delivered of course), I'm willing to wait...

Keeping my Jeep "totally AEV" has to be worth waiting for.

[buster04]

As long as I can order one before March 09 (and have it delivered of course), I'm willing to wait...

Keeping my Jeep "totally AEV" has to be worth waiting for.

I am not willing to wait, can we get it for Xmas please? Tease us with a pic... Its the least you all can do..

[buster04]

Come on.......... please......... post a photo...........:(:):mad::confused:

[JeepinJon]

I know that I am waiting on this too. I want to do my front and rear bumpers on the same weekend and I am hoping for thanksgiving since it will be a 4 day weekend. Otherwise I may need to wait for MLK day, or use soem of my cough cough sick days.

[buster04]

I know that I am waiting on this too. I want to do my front and rear bumpers on the same weekend and I am hoping for thanksgiving since it will be a 4 day weekend. Otherwise I may need to wait for MLK day, or use soem of my cough cough sick days.

you best do the front on its own day. It was a true pain to put it in.

[JeepinJon]

you best do the front on its own day. It was a true pain to put it in.

I have heard to plan a full day for it. That is kind of why I am hoping for a long weekend to that I should have plenty of time since I do tend to take my time a get it done right instead of rushing and making stupid mistakes.

[0317_guy]

Why does it take all day to bolt the front AEV bumper on?
Is there some special process to it or does it not fit right?
Do you have to cut and grind anything?

I helped a friend put an ARB bumper on last week and it was simple. Took us 2 hours and that was with several beer breaks.

[offroader613]

Here's another member's write up.

http://forum.jkboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=6603

[somewhereinla]

Why does it take all day to bolt the front AEV bumper on?
Is there some special process to it or does it not fit right?
Do you have to cut and grind anything?

I helped a friend put an ARB bumper on last week and it was simple. Took us 2 hours and that was with several beer breaks.

I have got to say, this is really AEV achilles'heel. I got my Rubi. a month ago and I am starting to look for a front bumper, and although I love AEV's bumper the best, I am really going back and forth between AEV's and ARB, I also know someone that installed the ARB bumper and it took no time at all. Not only AEV's take a long time to install, I don't have half the tool needed to do the job. At this price I really wish they would at least include pre-cut crush can in the kit.

[JeepinJon]

Why does it take all day to bolt the front AEV bumper on?
Is there some special process to it or does it not fit right?
Do you have to cut and grind anything?

I helped a friend put an ARB bumper on last week and it was simple. Took us 2 hours and that was with several beer breaks.

You need to cut out the crush cans, and grind them to te appropriate fit, and you also need to trim the end of one of the frame rails for most winches. From what I have heard it is usually 8 hours for most people to install their first AEV bumper.

[buster04]

Why does it take all day to bolt the front AEV bumper on?
Is there some special process to it or does it not fit right?
Do you have to cut and grind anything?

I helped a friend put an ARB bumper on last week and it was simple. Took us 2 hours and that was with several beer breaks.

there is cutting and hole widening, and a lot of bolt on, it is not like the ARB one at all, no clue why.

BUT it is better looking, I had teh ARB and went to AEV

[forsakenfuture]

Ive been wondering this but it doesnt really matter because it will be a good seven plus years before i can afford a JK but i wonder if they are going to have a highlift mount on the rear bumper since they offer the the jack base.

[0317_guy]

Thanks for the replies. As great a company as AEV is and the products they produce I can't figure out for the life of me why they would take three steps back with their JK front bumper.

It does look great but for the premium price you pay for it and the tools you have to purchase to install it, if you do not have them available, and the huge amount of time it takes to install it just seems bass akwards to me.

I hope their rear bumper is easier to install then the front is,from all accords, to put on if not I guess I'll be going with something less time consuming.

[AEV Dave]

Well, we're obviously not talking much about the rear bumper and tire carrier yet but I can assure you it will be very easy to install even for the average guy at home. There will be many many features in the unit and I don't think anyone will be disappointed with the features, value, quality, and most of all the convenience.

For those wondering, the reason we do not include the crush cans is because they are made by one company to chrysler specs with chrysler owned tooling (no its not cheap enough to duplicate) and we can not purchase them separate. ARB also makes you cut them out if you choose to install them in their bumper.

The AEV bumper will bolt right on if you tighten the bolts in the proper pattern which I will admit needs to be cleared up in the instructions (only so many hours in the day) The guys in our shop can install the bumper, winch and lights in three hours, but of course they've done more than one.

dh

[Explore]

Dear Santa, (AEV)
I would say I was good this year; despite my profession (Marine). The only gift I want this year is a "AEV Rear bumper w/ tire carrier". Please Santa, tell the elves (John, Dave, Mike) to get one to South Carolina for X-Mas..

Elves: Any idea on a price range? ~please dont say "comparable to other companies" Need time to roll the quarters... I may need a bailout after this JK is complete..


JEEP = Just Empty Every Pocket

[JeepinJon]

I know I have about 1500 budgeted for the rear. I am hoping to do the front with skid, rear, Baja Designs HID lights, and a Warn 9.5 ti with Masterpull winchline for under $5,000 for my Christmas present to myself.

[offroader613]

I know I have about 1500 budgeted for the rear. I am hoping to do the front with skid, rear, Baja Designs HID lights, and a Warn 9.5 ti with Masterpull winchline for under $5,000 for my Christmas present to myself.

You're lucky, mines only an iPod touch. :rolleyes::D

[JeepinJon]

You're lucky, mines only an iPod touch. :rolleyes::D

My wife doesn't know about it, but she is fine as long as there is money to pay the bills and in the bank. She still can't come to the garage when I am working on my Jeep because she is afraid one day I am going to do something I can't fix.

[offroader613]

Sounds like last month when I was digging in the back of my WJ to see if it had wiring for the rear outlet. I decided to stop when I found out you had to unclip a lot of panels in the back, I knew what would have happened. :rolleyes::D:D:D

[buster04]

Any word??

[buster04]

cough cough?

[Mowabb]

New month, new rear bumper? :confused:

[BRICKTOP]

Dave,
Any drawings or photos for us yet? I can't WAIT!

[trentjensen]

Unfortunately, we are going to miss our SEMA debut, not by much though.

dh

Dave,

We're dying here. You gave us hope of something soon after SEMA and we're chomping at the bit. Even if we knew you were 6 months or a year out that would help ease the tention...

[markm]

Unfortunately, we are going to miss our SEMA debut, not by much though.

dh

Dave,
I want to give AEV the benefit of doubt, but is there really a rear bumper in development? Is this some scam to keep us all from buying a competitors bumper?
I'm sure you want to keep the copy cats from stealing your designs and all but come on, not even a teaser photo?
Those LOD bumpers look better and better every day. I really like the quality of my AEV front bumper and hell I was even thinking about dusting off the wallet and getting a set of AEV bead locks, but geez how much whining is it going to take to get you guys to sign up to a reasonable date and provide your customers with some real evidence that you are going to be ready to sell a rear bumper in the near future?

Judging from the number of hits this thread has gotten, seems there is more than a little interest here.

Please support your current customers with a real delivery date.

Thanks

-mm

[njjeepthing]

Dave,
I want to give AEV the benefit of doubt, but is there really a rear bumper in development? Is this some scam to keep us all from buying a competitors bumper?
I'm sure you want to keep the copy cats from stealing your designs and all but come on, not even a teaser photo?
Those LOD bumpers look better and better every day. I really like the quality of my AEV front bumper and hell I was even thinking about dusting off the wallet and getting a set of AEV bead locks, but geez how much whining is it going to take to get you guys to sign up to a reasonable date and provide your customers with some real evidence that you are going to be ready to sell a rear bumper in the near future?

Judging from the number of hits this thread has gotten, seems there is more than a little interest here.

Please support your current customers with a real delivery date.

Thanks

-mm

x2, your potentially losing more business by not giving information to consumers. Buyers are going to get fed up and tired of waiting and purchase something else. At least if we had a time frame, a general idea of what it looks like, and if would be something worth waiting for, we might hold off and wait for it. Otherwise I see myself and a lot of other potential customers in this thread spending their money elsewhere.

It's your business, do with it what you want. In this economy, I'd be bending over backwards to maintain my customer base.

[markm]

Funny thing about this whole bumper mystery happened this last week. Two guys at work bought JK's. They knew each other, but unknowingly showed up at work with new JK's on Monday. I happened to know each of them individually, and so of course they called me to show off the new toys. Of course my sweet AEV front bumper came up, and both are interested in getting one. I did tell them how much I liked my front bumper and how (IMO) looks like how the factory bumper should have looked.

Then up comes the rear bumper subject. I really wish I could of been more positive regarding the status of the impending availability, but I asked them to contact AEV directly for the real story.

Make that two more people interested.

[kntr]

Hang Tight, its going to be first quarter till the bumper and tire carrier are released. We're putting a lot of time into the development of the tire carrier to avoid the pitfalls of most.

dh

Since its been almost a year, can you tell us why the delay? Did you run into problems with getting them made? What is the story?

[AEV Dave]

The reason we intentionally do not give out information regarding unreleased products not available for sale is so that we don't get people all worked up about a product they can't have and cause customers to have ill will towards AEV. In the past we were as guilty as virtually every other company in the aftermarket about releasing information prior to availability, but it is our experience that it always back fires and ends up with unhappy customers. At AEV we've made a conscious decision to not release any information till we have boxes on both our shelves and those of our dealers.

If we were to give in to releasing information, take pre-orders or generally telling customers to wait for our stuff, one of these things happens regardless:

We feel rushed and release a product that might not be fully tested or as good as we could make it. - RESULT: UNHAPPY CUSTOMER
We have a supplier delay that is completely out of our control and product could be delayed weeks or even months - RESULT: UNHAPPY CUSTOMER
Because we rush a product to market, other products get pushed to the side and deadlines are not met causing delays or problems with other products - RESULT: UNHAPPY CUSTOMER


It is our feeling that loosing a customer to another brand because we have not released our product is acceptable but stringing customers along when we do not have product on the shelf is not. I hope all of you understand where we are coming from and make a decision based on this.

As far as the bumper and tire carrier go, we do have prototypes running around that are being tested, when we will have it ready? I have no idea, other than our projections, but I can tell you that we will not rush a product into the market prematurely. The tire carrier is one product that is taking a lot of time because we want it to be the most convenient, strongest, most durable carrier that doesn't have all the issues of every other carrier on the market. Its my personal feeling that there has never been a tire carrier on the market that doesn't have serious issues...ever. That goes for both aftermarket and OE.

dh

[JeepinJon]

Sounds like you guys are getting closer to coming out with something. I know I am waiting for the bumper so I can put that on prior to a lift since I don't wantto be hanging a 37" tire on the gate.

[Ivanko]

Good things come to those who wait :D

[forsakenfuture]

I hope its mind blowing considering all the hype around it.

[vedo13]

Dave,
Thank you for once again addressing the bumper question for all those interested, especially those who haven't read the thread back to 10 years ago when it first started (just kidding!! REALLY!! IT's a jab at all the anticipation!!). We sincerely appreciate your update and keeping us in the loop. I understand that if you can't wait......well, you can't wait. There are plenty of other bumpers out there. I can wait. Even if the post is "well, we don't know, we're still in development," it's at least something. Much appreciated. I think your unhappy customer paradigm is RIGHT ON, as I've been an unhappy customer one too many times. I can wait. Looking forward!!!

Happy Holidays!

[JeepinJon]

This one is killing me since I can afford the front bumper and skid at the moment, but would rather do the rear first, then lift and tires, and then the front. I guess I will give it a week and if I don't hear anything I will go ahead and just order the front bumper, and wait for the rear. My wife gave me a dollar amount I can spend and it is just so hard to decide which way to go since i know if I don't move forward in the next week or two she will spend it.:(

If you need anyone for field samples, or preproduction versions of items let me know. I will be more than happy to pay for the samples to test these. I am sure in Iowa I could give you some feedback on the corrosion resistance, and I don't think there is anyone around here that would even know what I did to snap any spy pictures. Heck I can't even remember to take pictures of my AEV corners to post up.:D

[AEV Dave]

Don't know if this makes it an easier decision, but if you're planning on running 35s (or smaller) you can use the stock gate and tire carrier for a while. (37s if you get one of the tire mount raising kits) Our testing shows the stock tail gate will start to break spot welds after about 20-25K of typical driving. The rear bumper will be done before that unless you are planning on doing non-stop laps across the US starting tomorrow :)

dh

[JeepinJon]

I just went ahead and ordered the front bumper and a Warn 9.5ti winch for now and then I wil try to find some TJ springs to level the front. I am sure by the time Christmas is over my wife won't be feeling as generous, so I have to get the bigger items while I have permision. I think with the 4 door, it just looks better with 37" tires, so I will keep waiting for the rear since I need to wait for the Nth suspension too.

[trentjensen]

Don't know if this makes it an easier decision, but if you're planning on running 35s (or smaller) you can use the stock gate and tire carrier for a while. (37s if you get one of the tire mount raising kits) Our testing shows the stock tail gate will start to break spot welds after about 20-25K of typical driving. The rear bumper will be done before that unless you are planning on doing non-stop laps across the US starting tomorrow :)

dh

The way I interpret this is we shouldn't have to wait longer than 2 years. Sweet!

I hope we know something by spring. I won't go through a 3rd summer with my spare strapped down in the trunk.

I can confirm the problem with a 37 on the rear gate, but I started popping welds a lot earlier.

[buster04]

Unfortunately, we are going to miss our SEMA debut, not by much though.

dh

Hi, would you be so kind as to clarify this statement? Especially the part "not by much though"?

[Explore]

Any word on a release date for this bumper, my first marriage lasted less time than this.:D Got some photos? teasers?

[markm]

AEV Dave,
Hate to do it but I'm going to have to call bull@#$%@# on the wait for the rear bumper.

I putting my AEV front up for sale, and buying the Red Rock Fab front and rear.

Anybody interested please send me a private message, I'll make you a pretty good deal. The bumper is as new, no scratches, dings etc. Comes w/fog lights, cans and the skid plate.

Sorry AEV, I would really rather spend my hard earned $$ with you, but as you have said before, instead of promising something and not delivering, you would rather not promise anything.

I respectfully understand your position, just as I hope you understand mine. Good luck with the new rear bumper.

[AEV Dave]

We understand and appreciate you understanding our position on not releasing anything early.

For the rest of you, it looks like our testing is about to end and we'll release everything to the suppliers by the end of the month. That still means its a ways off until they are on the shelves, but with any luck there will be rear bumpers on Jeeps by the spring.

dh

[JeepinJon]

Sounds like it is getting close since in the past it seems like the notice goes to supliers when they are getting packaged and ready to go to them. I think February will be my suspension, and April rear bumper if they are out by then.

[Beaver]

Dave, I'll assume that means I will not have it installed before the Easter Jeep Safari 2009 :(

[AEV Dave]

I'm not going to say anything official...

But if you were a company like AEV, you'd probably see Moab as an important goal, eh? :)

dh

[MC4X4]

are you able to give us any idea on what it comes with
hi-lift jack holder / jerry can holder ect
cheers Mark

[forsakenfuture]

AEV has done a good job keeping it under wraps,you would think some Jeeper might of spotted one of their rigs on the road or on the trail with one of the bumpers.

[Summit Jeep]

I know it has only been one person but patience is wearing thin. One has already offered up his front bumper because he is tired of waiting and hearing the same "it's coming" response. I too am waiting and hope this isn't a sign of what is to come. I know AEV is quality in every aspect, but customers are getting restless.

[AEV Dave]

Yeah, I suppose we could just release it and hope there are no future issues. Just let our customers do our long term testing for us like every other aftermarket company does....nah, that wouldn't be the AEV way.

Look, at the end of the day, some folks will wait, others won't, we can't make the decision to release a product that hasn't completed the design schedule based on the fact that some folks need something right now. If we were an airplane company, we probably wouldn't get customers asking to just take off now, I need to get somewhere...I don't care if you haven't seen if it will take all the abuse it might see in the real world.

On the other hand, the fact that people are willing to wait is a huge compliment to all the hard work we do here and our philosophy of doing something right, doing it once. To those folks, I sincerely thank you on behalf of our company.

dh

[Summit Jeep]

All good points. Thank you Dave.

[forsakenfuture]

I cant believe that since people cant get a matching rear bumper they are selling their front ones...seems a little extreme to me.

[Jdemonto]

I cant believe that since people cant get a matching rear bumper they are selling their front ones...seems a little extreme to me.

LOL,

Dave good job on sticking to your guns on this, 99% of all companies make their customers the gueni pigs. You guys truly design and build OEM or better products. If I had a JK I would just wait for the rear nomatter how long it took!

Jason

[JeepinJon]

I know I am going to contunie to wait as patienly as I can. I know that I have seen too many issues with other companies, and I know if I don't wait as soon as the AEV one came out I would be kicking myself in the rear for not waiting. I am a big beleiver in do it right the first time, and with any AEV product sometimes it may not have been the cheapest option out there, but I know it has been done right, and I won't have to worry about future problems. It also makes me repsect AEV more than other companies to know that they would rather wait on putting a product out there until it is done right.

I know in looking at some of these non-AEV bumpers people are selling after a year on the JK they are all rusty, and the powder coating is coming off. Then you see the AEV ones and they still look as good as new. Living where it snows and they salt like crazy this is a very important item for me.

[Explore]

Dave,
No matter how long it takes, I'm obviously in for the wait. I want my JK to be all AEV. Im not selling my front bumper for any reason.jk I have had a great experience with AEV from day one and would not settle for any other product or customer service for that matter.
Would kill to be in MOAB with you guys but I think OIF/OEF may be taking the lead at this point..
Thanks for the great products..

[buster04]

can you at least throw a few photos up?

[Woodchuck]

Dave,

How do those of us with AEV vehicles or those that have been waiting so long ensure we get them before all the supply is exhuasted and wind up having to wait for round two?

[jeepfreak]

patience is a virtue. it will be worth it, just like anything else AEV has brought to the four wheel drive market.

[offroader613]

patience is a virtue. it will be worth it, just like anything else AEV has brought to the four wheel drive market.

Couldn't agree more. AEV has built products that have raised the bar for everyone else and I believe this rear bumper will do the same.

[Totenkopf]

It's gonna be nice.

[buster04]

knock knock hello?? Any updates??

[AEV Dave]

Actually lots of process, this is when we're close enough that it would be really easy to let stuff slip and cause even more issues. We still need everyone to be patient.

I can tell you that some of our bigger dealers have been shown the rear bumper to gauge initial responses and so far its been really great. The tire carrier hasn't been shown to dealers yet, but that's really the best part :)

dh

[we the people]

I have seen it more than worth the wait. I can

[we the people]

sorry i cant finish my post yegge tackled me i will tell you more when i get
out of the hospital....

[JeepinJon]

I have seen it more than worth the wait. I can

Isn't everything from AEV worth the wait? ;)

[offroader613]

Isn't everything from AEV worth the wait? ;)

Yes, you're right

[Mowabb]

sorry i cant finish my post yegge tackled me i will tell you more when i get
out of the hospital....


Yegge tackling you would definitely put you in the hospital! :eek:

[trentjensen]

Actually lots of process, this is when we're close enough that it would be really easy to let stuff slip and cause even more issues. We still need everyone to be patient.

dh

I have been visiting AEV's site almost daily since late 2006. I was anxious then for the products seen at SEMA that year. I remember an original PDF with products anticipated release dates stating a rear bumper was planned for 4th quarter 2007. I remember placing my order for a front bumper direclty with AEV and then waiting for months because there were so many orders.

It has been almost 2 years since I finally received my front bumper and I absolutely love it. It's amazing how many compliments I get. As I have followed this thread since it's inception I have struggled to understand this theory of secrecy about the progress and anticipated release date of a rear bumper.

As the day approaches that we will all be graced to see and purchase this fabled object, I hope that those of you at AEV have put as much time and research into the anticipated market demand as you have into it's design.

As someone who has been force fed the bit about not releasing information until the product is ready to ship, nothing would be more desimating to AEV's image and my committment to your company than an underestimation of demand. Everythign you have stated about the correct way to release a product will be for not if we have to wait for months after its release to receive delivery.

[2007jkr]

I like AEV's products. I have their pintler wheels and front bumper with skid plate. I too am eagerly waiting for the rear jk bumper, but I don't think AEV is really being straight with its customers. The release of the bumper is susposed to be imminent, but we can't even see a picture. Your showing it to dealers (not with tire carrier), but you can't give your customers a peak. Remember we are the ones who give you money for products you develop. This is how you stay in business. AEV has been saying since late 2007 its almost here. Then its was going to be sometime first or second quarter 2008. In the meantime AEV released its Jk snorkle, plug in programmers, and jk lift kit. Your clearly expending resources on products, but one has to wonder how much time and effort is really being spent on the rear JK bumper. Maybe your claimed policy of product silence is viewed internally a wise and clever marketing. I hope your right. I'm trying to be patient. As far as I'm concerned, given the amount of time AEV claims they have been working on this bumper, I'm expecting the most innovative and ruggedly built rear jk bumper available on the market. I hope I can continue waiting, but your about to lose me like others.

[AEV Dave]

The whole point is that we are being as straight as possible with our customers. Its not available yet. If you need something now, you'll need to buy a different product.

We are not releasing anything till its on our shelves ready to ship so that we don't get customers upset about waiting for a product and don't give them false hopes of getting the product on some imaginary schedule. Obviously we have failed to convey the point clearly enough for some.

Other manufacturers would have already shown a CAD image, taken orders and then had a huge backlog and pissed off customers who have probably already put down a deposit and are now stuck waiting...then they get the product that hasn't been tested, hasn't been validated for coating durability...blah blah blah...Seen it a hundred times.

As I've said before, if you're willing to wait it will be worth it. If you're not, please please go buy a different product that IS available now and be happy with the decision and don't be mad at AEV for taking the time to develop the highest quality product in the market. Realize that everyone at AEV has your best interests in mind.

dh

If this thread keeps going this way, I'm going to shut it down till the product is released.

[AEV Dave]

Really, this is our forum and as such its about our products, I'm perfectly ok with people disagreeing with me or anyone here, thats not an issue at all. I just want everyone to understand that we are trying to raise the bar in the Jeep aftermarket in terms of product and service.

dh

[vedo13]

Really, this is our forum and as such its about our products, I'm perfectly ok with people disagreeing with me or anyone here, thats not an issue at all. I just want everyone to understand that we are trying to raise the bar in the Jeep aftermarket in terms of product and service.

dh

....and PRICE!!! :D:D:D:D HAHA!

Just kidding!!

But, I will say, I've been getting a hellofa ribbing from my TJ buddy about saving up for the 3" suspension when I can go to the "stealer" (HA!) and get a Rusty's deal for $1600 installed. But then, he over-built his 6" RE rig WITH 35" swampers to the tune of $10k and has only had it offroad once in 3 years.
I've had my Sahara stocker offroad 3 times in 6 months.

[Jdemonto]

Really, this is our forum and as such its about our products, I'm perfectly ok with people disagreeing with me or anyone here, thats not an issue at all. I just want everyone to understand that we are trying to raise the bar in the Jeep aftermarket in terms of product and service.

dh

Dave as you know I have no Jk so maybe I am not as excited as I should be. I have sold a few of your bumpers as being the best the Jk market has to offer to my customers. So far so good all of your products that I have used or friends or customers have used exceeded my expectations. When you release your rear bumper I am sure it will be the best the Jk aftermarket has to offer. I appreciate this forum and would like to continue to see all of your products and discussions here. I am sorry a few here do not see it my way and want to threaten to buy elsewhere to get "spy pics" of the new bumper. If you choose to buy a different bumper becuase you can not wait you will be doing yourself a great dis-service. Thanks Dave

Jason

[Ivanko]

As I have said before, good things come to those who wait. I have never understood those that have the "I must have ________ now or I will die" attitude; the only thing any of us needs is air, water, and food.

I was a rep for a manufacturer years ago, and dealt with that mentality a lot. I can understand and welcome the passion for quality parts and wanting to upgrade, however nothing should be rushed that isn't perfect.

I could run out and buy a cheapo lift, or I could save my pennies for the best; I am choosing to get the best (AEV) because I know down the road from now I will be happy I waited the few extra months. Same thing with this bumper; I have a huge dent in mine, and would love to have a new aftermarket one, but I suck it up and wait for the good one.

[JeepinJon]

Dave as you know I have no Jk so maybe I am not as excited as I should be. I have sold a few of your bumpers as being the best the Jk market has to offer to my customers. So far so good all of your products that I have used or friends or customers have used exceeded my expectations. When you release your rear bumper I am sure it will be the best the Jk aftermarket has to offer. I appreciate this forum and would like to continue to see all of your products and discussions here. I am sorry a few here do not see it my way and want to threaten to buy elsewhere to get "spy pics" of the new bumper. If you choose to buy a different bumper becuase you can not wait you will be doing yourself a great dis-service. Thanks Dave

Jason

Well said.

[2007jkr]

Regarding posts 171, 172, 174, 175 and 176

Ouch!! I thought this was a discussion forum. I'm simply a passionate Jeep customer and was hopeful to have the bumper before I make my annual trip to MOAB in April. I guess that's not a realistic expection. Obviously if I needed something now I wouldn't have bothered to even post. Remember my opening remarks were "I like AEV's Products .... I trying to be patient....". Ivanko (post #175) indicates "...nothing should be rushed until its perfect." The bumper will never be released if perfection is the goal. Excellent, well designed and field tested are achievable, but perfection is a never ending pursuit for those who are passionate. That's just my opinion. Jdemonto (post #174) eludes that some are just trying to get spy pics? Spy pics - I think we are simply customers trying to make a purchase decisions (i.e., wait or buy something else) and are merely requesting product information to help with that decision - no threat just reality. Guys were just customers axious for the release of the bumper or information on the bumper, that's all.

[JeepinJon]

From what I have heard they are shooting to have it ready by EJS, but at the same time until it is in the boxes ready to ship stuff can happen. If you read through the posts though there are several people who say they are going to buy elsewhere if they don't see pictures, get it before a certain date, etc... and it is one of those things where they chose this method for releasing their products, and they won't budge so all you can do is repect their opinion, and either look elsewhere or ontinue to wait.

[Ivanko]

I like AEV's products. I have their pintler wheels and front bumper with skid plate. I too am eagerly waiting for the rear jk bumper, but I don't think AEV is really being straight with its customers. The release of the bumper is susposed to be imminent, but we can't even see a picture. Your showing it to dealers (not with tire carrier), but you can't give your customers a peak. Remember we are the ones who give you money for products you develop. This is how you stay in business. AEV has been saying since late 2007 its almost here. Then its was going to be sometime first or second quarter 2008. In the meantime AEV released its Jk snorkle, plug in programmers, and jk lift kit. Your clearly expending resources on products, but one has to wonder how much time and effort is really being spent on the rear JK bumper. Maybe your claimed policy of product silence is viewed internally a wise and clever marketing. I hope your right. I'm trying to be patient. As far as I'm concerned, given the amount of time AEV claims they have been working on this bumper, I'm expecting the most innovative and ruggedly built rear jk bumper available on the market. I hope I can continue waiting, but your about to lose me like others.

I fail to see how "I like AEV's Products .... I trying to be patient...." was the focus of the above inflamatory post or soften the accusatory tone.

[ryancrouch]

I wish I owned a JK just so I could have an AEV rear bumper. What has AEV made that was not superior to most anything out? And I'd much rather wait to get a great product than to buy a mediocre one now.

[AEV Dave]

Time for a group hug :) After all, we're all on the same team, if we weren't, we'd all have some cheap, poorly designed bumper on our JKs like a lot of people who don't know any better have already spent good money on.

I'm as excited for this product to (finally!) launch as any of you guys, believe me, having this project hanging over my head for more than a year as been a true test. Over the past year we have developed, designed and quoted twelve completely different concepts. At various points we thought "this is the one" and hoped to have it for this show or that show, but then something came up that would have made it "not the right one", didn't pass testing, too expensive, not the right features, etc...

So the bumper that is going into production now is by far the simplest (which in my eyes means the best design and engineering), the most cost effective AND has even more features than the past designs. A good rear bumper and tire carrier system has never been developed in my opinion, not by an aftermarket company and not by an OE company, that includes, Chrysler Toyota or any other company I can think of...never...so this was a really big project to me, probably one of the most difficult from an engineering perspective, which is funny, because when we do finally show it, a lot of you guys will probably be saying to yourselves..."what took so long, it looks pretty simple to me" but I think that's a really good compliment, because its easy to over complicate things to work around issues, and its very hard to combine everything into a simple unit...In all I couldn't be happier with the end product, but we would have never gotten there had we gone with one of our early designs. I think this bumper will set a new standard for both bumpers and tire carriers.

dh

[ryancrouch]

Maybe I should put my name on the waiting list for the bumper and then worry about getting a JK!

[Jdemonto]

Maybe I should put my name on the waiting list for the bumper and then worry about getting a JK!

LOL....

Dave, Now I am excited and I don't even own a JK! Are we going on a trail run Moab again? I'll be there ALL Week! ;)

Jason

[JeepinJon]

I thought the stock JK carrier was one of the best designed ever. :D

I know I am looking forward to getting my hands on it when it comes out. I think my wife is ready for me to be done with my build so she can stop hearing about it, but does it ever really end? Hopefully 2010 I will be able to make it to EJS and see all your stuff, but I know this fall I will probably swing by while I am in Missoula and see getting some things done.;)

[we the people]

If you thought the stock carrier was good wait until you see AEV'S. I think the biggest benefit of a rear bumper is getting the heavy tire off the tailgate and the AEV bumper does that in such a clean simple way. I am telling you guy's when I saw it I was very impressed it was nothing like any aftermarket bumper I have seen and anyone that doesn’t wait will be disappointed!!!And can someone tell Kent he can’t ball from the sidelines order the 6.1 before there gone!!!

[forsakenfuture]

I think he as being sarcastic about the stock carrier..;)

[JeepinJon]

I think he as being sarcastic about the stock carrier..;)

I was. The stock carrier is horrible. I am already getting wierd sounds out of the swing gate when I close it and that is with a stock Rubi tire and wheel on it.:mad:

[2007jkr]

Time for a group hug :) After all, we're all on the same team, if we weren't, we'd all have some cheap, poorly designed bumper on our JKs like a lot of people who don't know any better have already spent good money on.

I'm as excited for this product to (finally!) launch as any of you guys, believe me, having this project hanging over my head for more than a year as been a true test. Over the past year we have developed, designed and quoted twelve completely different concepts. At various points we thought "this is the one" and hoped to have it for this show or that show, but then something came up that would have made it "not the right one", didn't pass testing, too expensive, not the right features, etc...

So the bumper that is going into production now is by far the simplest (which in my eyes means the best design and engineering), the most cost effective AND has even more features than the past designs. A good rear bumper and tire carrier system has never been developed in my opinion, not by an aftermarket company and not by an OE company, that includes, Chrysler Toyota or any other company I can think of...never...so this was a really big project to me, probably one of the most difficult from an engineering perspective, which is funny, because when we do finally show it, a lot of you guys will probably be saying to yourselves..."what took so long, it looks pretty simple to me" but I think that's a really good compliment, because its easy to over complicate things to work around issues, and its very hard to combine everything into a simple unit...In all I couldn't be happier with the end product, but we would have never gotten there had we gone with one of our early designs. I think this bumper will set a new standard for both bumpers and tire carriers.

dh

That helps explain alot regarding the time its taken to get to this point. I'm anxious to see it.

[somewhereinla]

Well, I have had a great time reading this thread, very entertaining... sort of like watching a soap, the AEV soap LOL....
I am glad that the launch is near, I just got an AEV front bumper which I will be installing in the next couple of weeks, so my jk will be ready for an AEV rear bumper : ).

So what's next?

[JeepinJon]

So what's next?

New AEV rocker guards? :confused:

Then maybe some skids that have all the bolt heads recessed and give a smooth surface. :D

[we the people]

I don't think the bumper is as far off as people think Yeggae bet me a pizza I would have my bumper before Kent grew a set and ordered his 6.1L.

[JeepinJon]

It took him a while (like at least 9 months) to get the 5.7, so are we looking by EJS 2011? :p

[xjski03]

I don't think the bumper is as far off as people think Yeggae bet me a pizza I would have my bumper before Kent grew a set and ordered his 6.1L.


When are you going to order a HEMI for your JK?? :p

[AEV Dave]

Guess what I just bolted on to my JK?


dh

[HEMIBRUTEON4DZ]

you better send me some pics

[Ubermoose]

I don't want to wade through the earlier posts in this thread as it seems to have gotten a little heated... I sense some mud slinging and M80's in mailboxes may have transpired in our patient wait for another hit from AEV.

How's that for sucking up. ;)

Are there any hints at details of this new rear bumper? The one I am dying to know is if it is in someway connected to the tailgate in a fashion reminiscent of Expedition One's rear bumper and tire carrier.

Dave? Anyone?


Rob

[Woodchuck]

Guess what I just bolted on to my JK?


dh

Is that for testing? Or are we almost there?

[dsy]

Guess what I just bolted on to my JK?


dh

Down to teasing now ;)

[JeepinJon]

My wifes family drives past the Missoula shop every day to go to work, so I might need to ask for a few favors from them. :D

Too bad if I told them they would have no clue what I was talking about and probably take a picture the front bumper of a Jeep in their lot since they just don't know. :(

[kntr]

I live close by. Id love to take a look.

[kafka1983]

Guess what I just bolted on to my JK?


dh

Dave,

I certainly hope you're going live with the rear bumper/tire carrier this week. Otherwise, you're likely to get some grumpy posts here and in the other forums!!! Besides, wouldn't it make a great Valentine's Day gift to all your loyal customers who are jonesing for it.

Kafka1983

[ryancrouch]

Dave,
When you do "go live" with the JK rear bumper can we please see pics of your personal JK? And also since the rear bumper is close to production, any hints on what other products you have planned for the JK? And thanks for having the fortitude to wait and get the bumper exactly right instead of putting it out sooner. There's something to be said when a business owner invests this much into development of a product when the others rush to market with the first or second design.

[CyrusPura]

Dave-

I'm hoping that once AEV releases the new rear bumper and tire carrier, you could post some of the development and evaluation pictures, like you did with the suspension testing. Also, you mention that you have designed/tested several ideas that were ultimately discarded. I was hoping you would be able to release some pictures or cad drawings of these ideas to demonstrate the thought process and time that AEV put into designing the perfect rear bumper.

- Cyrus

[JeepSauce]

I second the above motion.

[kafka1983]

Dave,

Moab is 6 weeks away.

Kafka1983

[AEV Dave]

No kidding, tick tock...its gonna be close! Everything has been kicked off with our tool makers, so now its just keeping our fingers crossed that no issues crop up.


dh

[kafka1983]

No kidding, tick tock...its gonna be close! Everything has been kicked off with our tool makers, so now its just keeping our fingers crossed that no issues crop up.


dh

I hope you're not the only one who's gonna have the new rear bumper on!

[Adidas2721]

No need to apologize to me!! I think its cool to see AEV has a forum until now they have been pretty quiet on forums and likely because of posts that reflect anger or poor mouthing. I understand I have been there with forums and learned they can be your best friend or worst enemy when it comes to business. I am inching twards a JK and likely a AEV JK!!

Jason

I'm an owner of a TJ and desire a JK everytime I see one. Then I think to myself I don't want just any JK that some chump can buy I want an AEV JK. Why be a follower when you can stand above the rest with one of the greatest vehicles ever built. Can't wait to see the new design for the rear bumper. It's going to be great just like everything else AEV makes.

[JeepinJon]

I think I am going to need a bailout from the government for all the Jeep part I need. :D

[offroader613]

I think I am going to need a bailout from the government for all the Jeep part I need. :D

Me too. I now want a 3" IRO lift for my WJ plus JK Rubi wheels and tires. :D

[CyrusPura]

Any comments on the previous post?

Dave-

I'm hoping that once AEV releases the new rear bumper and tire carrier, you could post some of the development and evaluation pictures, like you did with the suspension testing. Also, you mention that you have designed/tested several ideas that were ultimately discarded. I was hoping you would be able to release some pictures or cad drawings of these ideas to demonstrate the thought process and time that AEV put into designing the perfect rear bumper.

- Cyrus

[Jdemonto]

Any comments on the previous post?


I am sure they will after the release of the bumper, it would be cool to see how they ended up with the final design.

Jason

[kafka1983]

Less than 4 weeks to go to Moab

[kafka1983]

3 weeks to Moab!

[buster04]

word is no rear for Moab or at least one for sale by then..

[JeepinJon]

Hopefully it is close enough by then that they can show it. I would hate to think of Dave having to take his off, and put the stocker back on.;)

[kafka1983]

That's a huge disappointment. I guess some issues cropped up.

[AEV Dave]

We will have five units on vehicles in Moab and the production run being worked on while we are gone. As soon as we know where all the vehicles will be placed I'll post it here.

dh

[kafka1983]

That's great news! Are we going to see it on the website before hand??

[we the people]

if you want to be the first person with the new bumper all you have to do is show up at ejs with enough cash to buy one of the five units with the bumper already on it.

[boots]

word is no rear for Moab or at least one for sale by then..

Hey Buster04,

Patty and I will be at Moab from the 6th to the 12th, and the 2009 JK Jam. Will take alot of photo's for yea.

If your looking for any paticuler angle let me know...

[kntr]

Dont feel bad. I was just at AEV today and Dave wouldnt even let me peak at the rear bumper. :(

[forsakenfuture]

With all this wait and hype its getting to be like..how magical could a rear bumper be?Maybe im not as excited as i should be since it will be awhile before i have a JK and I'm sure it will be a nice product and have the same sexy lines as the front bumper but....its still just a rear bumper.....

[kafka1983]

Dave,

I'm not gonna make it to Moab. Any chance you'll have the rear bumper up on the website before the festivities begin or will us non-attendees have to wait for the Moab updates??

Kafka1983

[AEV Dave]

What! No one told you guys this rear bumper will cure cancer, fix the economy and has a built in set of D cups? Yeah, I fear it might be a little anti-climatic :)

I'll see, we should be at least able to post photos from Moab here on the forum.


dh

[forsakenfuture]

What! No one told you guys this rear bumper will cure cancer, fix the economy and has a built in set of D cups? Yeah, I fear it might be a little anti-climatic :)


dh

Dave,your so silly :)

[Askar]

Hi. I wonder if the rear springs that you offer for Hemi converted JKs on 35 tires for instance are strong enough for an additional weight of the planned steel bumper. What is the rear springs rate btw? Thanks

[Jdemonto]

What! No one told you guys this rear bumper will cure cancer, fix the economy and has a built in set of D cups? Yeah, I fear it might be a little anti-climatic :)

I'll see, we should be at least able to post photos from Moab here on the forum.


dh

Dang it, I was going to leave the kids and wife back at the cabin so I could see those "D Cups" :eek:

On that new rear bumper LOL

Jason

[ryancrouch]

Very very very disappointed Dave! I at least thought it would end world hunger!

[xjski03]

Very very very disappointed Dave! I at least thought it would end world hunger!

I've heard it makes great margaritas..lol :p

[JeepinJon]

What! No one told you guys this rear bumper will cure cancer, fix the economy and has a built in set of D cups? Yeah, I fear it might be a little anti-climatic :)

I'll see, we should be at least able to post photos from Moab here on the forum.


dh

Sounds like is was designed by Chuck Norris:D

[Ivanko]

Sounds like is was designed by Chuck Norris:D

I heard Chuck Norris took an I-Beam, chewed it like bubble gum, and spit out the steel AEV rear bumper.

If that's the case, this thing will be AWESOME!

[we the people]

so ejs is next week does anyone have spy shots of the rear bumper yet?
come on someone has had to see it!!! it's got to be out there somewhere..
anyone???

[JeepinJon]

so ejs is next week does anyone have spy shots of the rear bumper yet?
come on someone has had to see it!!! it's got to be out there somewhere..
anyone???

Officially it starts tomorrow, so hopefully we will see something then.

[we the people]

you know i live not far from the michigan office think i will go peak in the windows and see what i can find out. look for a update later today if yegge doesn't catch me and beat me up.

[we the people]

o.k. i am back here is what i found out one of the two big trailers that have been outside all week is gone. also the place has no windows and all the doors are locked. i am going back dressed a pizza delivery guy and see if they let me in.

[KJS TJ]

i may have seen a ruff prototype of this bumper on one of there jeeps at the MT shop and if it truly is theirs it looks like a very solid piece. The one i saw opened as one with the tailgate and was somewhat tubular. No pictures but its definitely lookin good.

[xjski03]

o.k. i am back here is what i found out one of the two big trailers that have been outside all week is gone. also the place has no windows and all the doors are locked. i am going back dressed a pizza delivery guy and see if they let me in.

Sorry your pizza disguise didn't work. Maybe if you would have brought some decent pizza I would have let you in. If you would just order the hemi for your car yegge would probably let you get a peak. :p

[forsakenfuture]

The one i saw opened as one with the tailgate ....

I hope it is,i hate how almost every bumper you have to swing the spare out then open the tailgate.

[offroader613]

Well, this thread is officially expired. The bumper has been shown, now we don't have to worry about people b!tch!n about when they'll get to see photos.

[JohnJohn]

Well, this thread is officially expired. The bumper has been shown, now we don't have to worry about people b!tch!n about when they'll get to see photos.

Any word on price?

[Cole]

Any word on price?


No John! ;) Havn't we covered this?;)

[offroader613]

If Dave or Jordan would have told us, we may have thought about telling the world, but I'd keep it an AEV secret.

[chasinternet]

What no rear bumper post for over 2 weeks? Can't have that!

I know the water on the bumper thing got rolling eyes from some but I think its going to be really handy. I'm going to change the cap, put some air pressure in the tank with Kilby on-board air, and have a small spray hose. Besides regular cleaning off tools, bikes, shoes; while rock collecting it will be really useful to shoot some water to clean off potential keepers for examination. Pressurizing the tank can create all sorts of crazy ideas - even a shower or making a mist to cool off in the hot desert sun.

Of course if the plastic tank is really thin - then even low pressurizing is off limits.... but I have never known an AEV build to do things like that. Doubt it is thick enough to crank up the air pressure and use my Staun Massojet though :D

Let's see... production was supposedly started around Moab.... so production, inspection/test, shipping.... my guess is July-September before I can order one.