Help me build it.

[GMFL]

So I have a 2006 TJ Rubi and just installed the highline kit and 315 75 16 KM2's. Nothing is done to the suspension and, of course, it rubs when flexed.

What should I do next to get some easy wheeling in. I'll leave it open to any and all suggestions....Thanks for all replies... :D:D

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/GMFL2/IMG_1050.jpg

[rubclt]

Based on the holes in the side of tub this must be a Rubicon? What transmission? What budget? What type of wheeling do you do? Is it a DD? All this helps decide what to do...

For sure I would be nth TT on it, with transmission (auto) and engine skid. I will upgrade front tie rod, bent mine first time out with 35”, thank goodness for high lift handle.

Then you need to decide on amour and bumper and winch and tools in bed. When I did my HL, I tried to stay low and light was my theme because I was moving from a very heavy, 7” lift TJ that scared me to death on steep rocks.

You need 1-3 inches of lift depending on how you bump stop it and what bumpers, winch you plan to run. I ran 3” nth springs with 35” and had all the room I needed. Do you run spacers with new shocks for while is an economical way to go…

You are going to need control arms, big decision here, long or short? I still have shorts and at some point install the nth long one’s sitting in my garage. (Too big honeys do list)… The factory front SA will bend when you wheel the first time.

Next up axle shafts and gears, if you plan to always rub 35” then 4.88 gears will take it back to stock performance, if you might go 37” then 5.13…

Depending on lift front brake lines, exhaust work, roll cage, lights, onboard air, etc., etc.

Now you know what JEEP stands for Just Empty Every pocket

[GMFL]

I guess I should have provided more deatails.

Yes it is a Rubicon, 6 speed and I do have the Nth TT. I was looking for something in the way of lift just to get me going until the bank account gets built back up.

Thanks Rubclt for the suggestions, quick question for ya, could I just install longer bumpstops without spacers? ie, no lift? I think eventually I'm going with the Nth 3" lift but just trying to get by for a few months.

I wheel mostly in the Johnson Valley (haven't tried the Hammers....yet) area and along the Co. River in AZ so not too much rock crawling but never know in the future.

Thanks again.

[Dave Affleck]

I've been going about getting my '06 Rubi Unlimited built from the exact opposite direction. The only things I have left to do (buy) are the Highline kit and 315/75/16 KM2's (and 4.88's...). Hoping to be able to order the Highline for Christmas and finish everything up by spring.

Anyway... What I've already got (much of it installed already), to basicallly prepare for the finishing pieces (Highline, tires, gears):

TT - Medic (engine/trans skid too)
Control arms - all eight, Currie
Rear track bar - JKS
ORO Swayloc (manual)
Rear sway bar links - JKS
Nth 3" springs
Bilstein 5100 shocks
Currie steering
Rear axle shafts - Alloy USA
Front axle shafts - Alloy USA 30/30
Truspeed

And of course the very first things I did were armor and recovery, so all of the stuff like bumpers, winch, gas tank skid, diff covers, rocker sliders, Pull Pal etc. are all done already too.

Just to give you some ideas of some of the things you might want to consider as you start to build around your Highline and 315's. When the 315's get put on mine, she'll be done :D.

- DAA

[JeepinJon]

If you are just looking for somethin inexpensive for the moment there are quite a few budget boosts out there for under $300 that will give you an aditional 2" of clearance, and should solve any rubbing issues.

[Igmar]

The Old Man Emu system would be a great start, it provides roughly 2.5" of lift and you have a selection of light, medium, or heavy load springs for different equipment setups. At about $700 it's a great buy and a great product. It'll provide more than enough clearance for 35's and you'll have a great ride as well.

That's the direction I was heading.... then the Nth Long Arms were re-released, and I knew I couldn't have anything else! :D

[rubclt]

If it's for a few months buy a budget boost, 2" inch spacers front and rear with shocks. This will allow you to trail ride, not mess up fenders until you decide on your final direction. Like said above $300ish, self install, it's easy and you can resell parts on ebay for $100 or so bucks... Make sure you get a front swaybar disco, too.

[GMFL]

The Old Man Emu system would be a great start, it provides roughly 2.5" of lift and you have a selection of light, medium, or heavy load springs for different equipment setups. At about $700 it's a great buy and a great product. It'll provide more than enough clearance for 35's and you'll have a great ride as well.

That's the direction I was heading.... then the Nth Long Arms were re-released, and I knew I couldn't have anything else! :D

If it's for a few months buy a budget boost, 2" inch spacers front and rear with shocks. This will allow you to trail ride, not mess up fenders until you decide on your final direction. Like said above $300ish, self install, it's easy and you can resell parts on ebay for $100 or so bucks... Make sure you get a front swaybar disco, too.

Thanks for all the input and great suggestions and I think that's the way to go for now, I think I was trying to be too cheap.

Jeepinjohn, I meant to quote you too but can seem to figure out how to add another one, I'm sure it's easy...

[GMFL]

I've been going about getting my '06 Rubi Unlimited built from the exact opposite direction. The only things I have left to do (buy) are the Highline kit and 315/75/16 KM2's (and 4.88's...). Hoping to be able to order the Highline for Christmas and finish everything up by spring.

Anyway... What I've already got (much of it installed already), to basicallly prepare for the finishing pieces (Highline, tires, gears):

TT - Medic (engine/trans skid too)
Control arms - all eight, Currie
Rear track bar - JKS
ORO Swayloc (manual)
Rear sway bar links - JKS
Nth 3" springs
Bilstein 5100 shocks
Currie steering
Rear axle shafts - Alloy USA
Front axle shafts - Alloy USA 30/30
Truspeed

And of course the very first things I did were armor and recovery, so all of the stuff like bumpers, winch, gas tank skid, diff covers, rocker sliders, Pull Pal etc. are all done already too.

Just to give you some ideas of some of the things you might want to consider as you start to build around your Highline and 315's. When the 315's get put on mine, she'll be done :D.

- DAA

Perfect.. A build list for the future. THANKS :D

Quick question on the Truspeed, can't the dealership re calibrate without that? I'm getting lights on the dash too, I think because of the larger tires???:confused::confused:

[Dave Affleck]

Quick question on the Truspeed, can't the dealership re calibrate without that?

Nope. Be nice if they could though. $200 for the Truspeed just to recalibrate the speedo is kind of steep.

I'm getting lights on the dash too, I think because of the larger tires???:confused::confused:

Hmmm... Not sure what to think about that. What kind of lights, exactly? I wouldn't think larger tires in and of themselves would cause that?

Question for you on running the 315's with your current setup though... How are your brakes doing with the new meats? I don't have the Vanco kit in the budget before doing the tires and gears. Concerned with how well the stock braking setup is going to work with the bigger tires though. Thinking I'll probably go ahead and try some EBC 7000 series pads, and probably some new rotors up front too - until I can swing the Vanco kit at a later date.

- Dave

[GMFL]

Nope. Be nice if they could though. $200 for the Truspeed just to recalibrate the speedo is kind of steep.



Hmmm... Not sure what to think about that. What kind of lights, exactly? I wouldn't think larger tires in and of themselves would cause that?

Question for you on running the 315's with your current setup though... How are your brakes doing with the new meats? I don't have the Vanco kit in the budget before doing the tires and gears. Concerned with how well the stock braking setup is going to work with the bigger tires though. Thinking I'll probably go ahead and try some EBC 7000 series pads, and probably some new rotors up front too - until I can swing the Vanco kit at a later date.

- Dave

The light that is coming on is the Malfunction Indicator Light, owners manual says it could be bad gas or the gas cap not on tight..also says to not worry about it too much unless it blinks (it IS an idiot light right) I don't drive the jeep on a regular basis right now so haven't really looked into it too much. Thought it may be tire size confusing something but It probably is just the gas cap, I haven't check it yet.

As far as braking, so far so good, but as I said above, I haven't driven it too much yet. I've read that brakes are necessary at 37", but at 35" not so much. I'm sure opinions differ widely on that. Also, I have the Rubicon with 4 wheel discs so that helps a little more.

[Meeper]

GMFL,
how do you like those tires on the street? how well did they balance?

[GMFL]

GMFL,
how do you like those tires on the street? how well did they balance?

Great so far, not too noisy though I only have about 20 miles on them. I do have a slight shimmy at the steering wheel that I've noticed since putting them on but that could be an alignment issue (I'm guessing). As far as balancing, four of them balanced ok, but one took about 10 pounds of weight. We rotated the tire 180 on the wheel and it was better but still took a lot. I bought them through Americas Tire and they had four and had to get the 5th from another source (different batch?), not sure if that is the one that balanced poorly though.

Here is a picture of the wheel that took the most weight, there is another one one the inside of the wheel too.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/GMFL2/IMG_1052.jpg

[rubclt]

I like my KM2, I thnk there are a ew bugs being worked out for Michelin... If you need more than 5 oz I suggest you have them road forced balanced, which can tell you if it is wheel or tire or both. If tire, get a replacment right away. Michelin fed-x news one to me and wanted the old ones back when they first came out...

As for brakes, with a 4to1 transfer case, 5.13 gears, and 37" tires I needed brakes to help stop on rocks and street. I upgraded to vanco 16...

http://www.vancopbs.com/

[GMFL]

Well, I finished it....(so far).... Thanks for all the input, had a couple of changes but, for the most part, had a pretty straight forward build thanks to suggestions here...

This is what I ended up going with:....

Nth 3" springs
Bilstein 5100 shocks
Currie JJ upper and lower CA's
JKS rear track bar
Nth Lightning discos
Nth TT
JKS Rear Sway bar links
Coast CV D-shaft.
315 75 R16 KM2's
Spidertrax spacers
Moabs painted black

Here's a pic but a poor one, I'll try to get a better one later.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/GMFL2/IMG_0581.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/GMFL2/IMG_0575-1.jpg

Thanks for the input from everyone, it worked out well for me.. :D:D

[Dave Affleck]

GMFL, please do put up some better pics if you are able. Your parts list is almost identical to mine, but I have not installed the springs or shocks yet. But all in all, mine should end up with a similar stance to yours, except, I've also got a 1.25" BL already installed. Which means, I can fit 37's, if I decide I want to. Right now, I'm leaning more towards the 35's. Primarily for reliability, performance and economy concerns of running 37's vs. 35's on my Rubi drive train. The way my Jeep gets used, which is a lot of solo vehicle travel in remote locations, keeping it reliable is a big concern for me. I'm just afraid it would be much more likely to break on 37's than on 35's. The 35's are going to look small, but I don't think it will be too bad.

But... My mind is not totally made up, and the 37's will fit...

Anyway, would love to see some good profile pics of your rig.

- Dave

[GMFL]

Here are some new pictures.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/GMFL2/IMG_1137.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/GMFL2/IMG_1138.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/GMFL2/IMG_1140.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/GMFL2/IMG_1141.jpg

I think that those 35's look a little too small, 37's would fit in VERY nicely.

[GMFL]

Hey Dave, I just realized you were one of the original posters who I got ideas from. Thanks, I think I borrowed your list and, although I changed some stuff, went to build from there.

Thanks for the help!