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Unread 02-27-2017, 06:13 AM
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Snowiest winter on record here. A truck with a Diesel engine up front and designed to tow with no weight in the rear is going to suck with or without LSD if in 2wd. Even full locker doesn't buy much in rear on ice or snow. It's not a big deal to pop in and out of 4x4. This has been my ski vehicle this year, love it, but don't wish I had a lsd based on how little weight is distributed to the rear and the performance of the rear locker (lack of performance under street conditions).


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I have the factory LSD in the back and with my Toyo r/t a/t tires I can't use my truck this winter. The LSD on ice makes the truck fishtail instantly. 2wd on snow is a 50/50 mix of fishtail or not. I have to put it in 4wd just to get out of the driveway just from the ice and compacted old snow on the ground.

I will be removing the LSD and installing ARB lockers front and rear, along with studded snow tires before next winter. Also going to keep my camper on the truck all next winter. The LSD is great in warmer weather but hell on the ice without weight in the back and no snow tires.

If anyone wants a factory 2014 3500 HD locker with 25k on it pm me and I'll keep your info handy.

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Unread 02-27-2017, 11:11 AM
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I have been on the fence about running studs but after this winter , think that is gonna happen for next winter.

Sounds like the consensus on a LSD is to save the time/money and just pony up for ARBs
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If the roads are bad enough that an LSD is messing with me having LSD or not IMO should not matter as the roads are bad.. I'm running it in 4wd at that point. I've had both an open diff truck and an LSD truck and did not have any issues either way. I've never had nay issues running in 4wd at higher speeds. I will say that the LSD did not seem that great when stuck in the mud this year so I would be more apt to order as an open diff and not pay the LSD fee and just add lockers.

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with 40 inch tires might be alright then. with 37 inch tires it spins too easy in my opinion. But maybe I should dare to add a rear ARB to my front one and ditch the LSD.
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Unread 02-27-2017, 07:39 PM
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Tire pressure.....

It's a bit like putting a LSD in a mustang because your worried about wet or muddy roads. All kinds of torque looking to find an outlet and sure it might help a bit, but imagine a mustang with even worse weight distribution. 60-70% of the weight is in the front of our trucks. But if it is so slick that your spinning tires, either have 1,500lbs of sand in the back or put it in 4x4. It has been hilarious watching the rear wheel drive cameros, mustangs, chargers, the past week. Lol. They just give up and leave them in the roads. Watched a 2x4 pickup attempt to get out of his drive way for 10 min before he started to shovel. (No mood to help this fellow, case in point it took 10mij before he busted the shovel out. Then quit and left it and got a ride).

Once the temperature is about 50F I notice a lot less issue. Especially if tire pressure is correct for not having a load in the rear.

Now, that said, I was helping a fellow change a flat in a JK a few days ago and turned around on a two lane highway. Buried the truck in a snow, as the plows made it look deceptively shallow. Wrong. Buried all four wheels above axles. Zero motion forward or back, truck off camber sideways.

Locked front and rear and climbed right out. Open diff or LSD and he would have had to jerk me out after I helped with his tire. Lockers killed it.

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Sorry to kick up an older thread but does anyone know where to find an e-locker for the AAM 11.5?

I'd rather have an electric locker than air for more reliability and ease of field repairs if something goes down.

I'm also playing around with keeping the LSD. I know some have said they want to keep the LSD out back and run a locker up front but wouldn't a Torsen be better?


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Contact your Ram dealer. It is only available through the OEM channel, as far as I know. You will also need the other ancillary parts to actuate the lockers.

The OEM uses a helical gear design like the Torsen. Difference would mainly be the torque bias.

Dave, Diesel Power Products, and essentially every personal truck that I have seen that was owned by a professional in the industry has lockers not LSD. To the people who are trying to decide which is best, I would say follow their lead.
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They make both the Tracrite GTL and Tracrite EL. The GTL has lsd and locker the EL has just the locker. Power wagon has GTL
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Sorry to kick up an older thread but does anyone know where to find an e-locker for the AAM 11.5?

I'd rather have an electric locker than air for more reliability and ease of field repairs if something goes down.

I'm also playing around with keeping the LSD. I know some have said they want to keep the LSD out back and run a locker up front but wouldn't a Torsen be better?


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Randy's has both front and rear for 2500 and just the front for 3500...

https://www.ringpinion.com/b2c/Parts...=4WD&DiffID=95

https://www.ringpinion.com/b2c/Parts...4WD&DiffID=109

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