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Wait till Fiat gets their hands on the next gen Wrangler. The Wrangler will get 30mpg and work for soccer moms but the real Jeep people will be holding on to their CJ's, YJ's, TJ's, and JK's.
The new Wrangler will get 30 mpg simply from the VM 3.0 diesel engine...but we are scared of the potential for Fiat to screw it up...
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That would be cool if you could get the frame and take your body and drive train and install it on there. Then we could have the stronger frame, with hopefully better towing capability, and reuse our own stuff without having to rebuy everything. And, maybe this way we could just keep it registered with the existing VIN.
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The new Wrangler will get 30 mpg simply from the VM 3.0 diesel engine...but we are scared of the potential for Fiat to screw it up...
As long as Mark Allen is there we are fine

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Hello,

sorry to digg out this old topic, but can anyone tell me what exactly had been done to the basic wrangler chassis to get it stronger?

Are the frame rails bigger, the material thicker? Or are there some kind of plates weldet on the most important parts?

Since there are some variants of the J8 going up to 10.000lbs, which is indeed the Heavy duty truck range, not to mention the J8 is a real offroad truck not just for bad roads, i guess there has been much changing?


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Good questions. I too am curious.

Heres the J8 2 door cargo spec. But no answers to those questions.

http://www.jgms.com/resource/d4541e3...1efcf8e1eb.pdf
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There are a lot of areas on the frame that are thicker, or reinforced with plates or another layer of steel over the frame rails.
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I don't want or need to tow with my JK.
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Theoretically speaking here but couldn't you build/buy a Jk8 kit (or already completed) truck and get to 90% of what Jeep offers in the vehicle overseas?

Beyond the jk8 kit you would need to add or delete the following items

1) remove jk8 hardtop
2) add j8 military softtop
3) add j8 military rollbars (or do they use stock rollbars and not use jk8 kit roof and bars)
4) add portals and heavy duty suspension
5) delete bulk of insulation and sound proofing
6) strip out interior electronics in dash
7) add those simple bumpers
8) you could reinforce your normal JK frame if you want to tow a ton of gear
9) biggie, but install diesel or other spec'd motor (or HEMI)
10) the J8 has a stronger tailgate too according to another OP

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Theoretically speaking here but couldn't you build/buy a Jk8 kit (or already completed) truck and get to 90% of what Jeep offers in the vehicle overseas?
Sure.
What's your budget?

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4) add portals and heavy duty suspension
The Mopar Portals are $12,500 and $11,000 .. let's say you could do both and some suspension mods for $25k

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9) biggie, but install diesel or other spec'd motor (or HEMI)
4BT swaps are $20k, and the one company that was putting in 2.8 CRDs imported from wrecks around the world was charging $22k.

Let's say $20k for all the other stuff you list, and $20k for the base JKU and you're looking at $85k.

I'd love to see you do it!

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I was blown away by the portal prices and your # is spot on, so that's out for sure and the motor swap is more of a Want than a Need - especially since I would not be towing much. All that said to get a JK pickup and you really need is a JK8 kit and then re-work the J8 roll bars and floor panels back in no?
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