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    Why not offer the j8 frame, choice of engine, axels and other under hood products as a kit. This way the jk owners can simply put their jk bodies on the j8 and have best of both worlds with less cost. A lot of us have our jeeps paid for and like the interiors but want the heavier duty frame and drive train.

  • #2
    to my understanding. the body is also stronger on the J8 with reinforcements.

    but still a very good idea
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    • #3
      Well to have an engine upgrade, bullet proof driveline, able to tow 7000-8000 lbs. It would be like having a 1/2 ton pickup in a jeep body.

      My 09 jeep rubi nada value is 24k,26k I could refinance it to pay for this type of kit. It would make since with a used power train to have this done for around 20k, 25k.

      What does AEV say about this?

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      • #4
        What is the tow rating on those frames?

        And even if you did it, you still wouldn't have any way to get a new door sticker that says you're LEGAL for that kind of weight, even if it's "safe." Therefore you're playing with fire...you probably wouldn't get caught just for doing it, but if you were in a wreck, you'd have serious liability issues and then legal costs to try to "prove" you were safe. And at the end of the day, if it wasn't crash tested here, you lose.


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        • #5
          People try to do this with Japanese (and other country) cars all of time time.

          -they import the chassis in one container and the body in another...somehow the two make it to each other and it gets titled as a kit car. The government is quick to jump on this after the person spends the thousands on taxes, tariffs, brokerage, customs, and then a few months later the govt tracks them down and the vehicle gets crushed. You can find hundreds of these horror stories all over the internet.
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          • #6
            Governments are the problem.

            It angers me that our oppressive federal government prevents Chrysler from selling the J8 to US citizens. The regulators and bureaucrats think we are too stupid to know whats in our own best interest so they will use the force of government to force their ideas on the rest of us. What ever happened to freedom and the pursuit of happiness? Damn the government to hell!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by russb442 View Post
              Why not offer the j8 frame, choice of engine, axels and other under hood products as a kit. This way the jk owners can simply put their jk bodies on the j8 and have best of both worlds with less cost. A lot of us have our jeeps paid for and like the interiors but want the heavier duty frame and drive train.
              Write a letter to Mopar and ask them to offer these parts.
              The problem they would have in filling these orders is from their suppliers.
              Currently the J8 is shipped in KD kit format (knock down) to Arab American Vehicles (AAV) in Cairo and as the Storm 3, to Automotive Industries Ltd., in Israel.
              It is assembled there, as there is not room in Toledo.

              I'm still puzzled by the failure of Jeep to supply the J8 kits to AEV as was first contemplated a few years ago and we may never know why the program is run the way it is at Jeep.
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              • #8
                my lame guess would be that dealers, maybe non aev dealers, call chrysler and said no way - shut it down b/c we don't want aev poaching our business of selling regular (ie ordinary) jeeps to people. a few big buyers have a ton of leverage over a small outfit trying to do a unique run of 150cars - the press would be great for aev and horrible for chrysler and the non aev dealers. the fear and ensuing headache from 1000 or 5000 orders coming in that cannot be fulfilled wasn't worth it? or it won't pass emissions and crash test. or jeep wants to do it on there own in 2015 when planst re-tool for new frame/carriage

                there is NO incentive for jeep to sell anything unique when they sell 100% of the annual production at max capacity in toledo.

                want a cool jeep? stop buying the boring new ones and force them to acquiesce to your request for even cooler products (i deserve an aev forum ban for saying that I think).

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                • #9
                  Wait till Fiat gets their hands on the next gen Wrangler. The Wrangler will get 30mpg and work for soccer moms but the real Jeep people will be holding on to their CJ's, YJ's, TJ's, and JK's.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by lucky73 View Post
                    my lame guess would be that dealers, maybe non aev dealers, call chrysler and said no way - shut it down b/c we don't want aev poaching our business of selling regular (ie ordinary) jeeps to people. a few big buyers have a ton of leverage over a small outfit trying to do a unique run of 150cars - the press would be great for aev and horrible for chrysler and the non aev dealers. the fear and ensuing headache from 1000 or 5000 orders coming in that cannot be fulfilled wasn't worth it? or it won't pass emissions and crash test. or jeep wants to do it on there own in 2015 when planst re-tool for new frame/carriage

                    there is NO incentive for jeep to sell anything unique when they sell 100% of the annual production at max capacity in toledo.

                    want a cool jeep? stop buying the boring new ones and force them to acquiesce to your request for even cooler products (i deserve an aev forum ban for saying that I think).
                    All points that are the reason the AEV parts are ALSO in the Mopar Parts ordering system. When you order they are considered factory parts.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LetchcoreCJ7 View Post
                      Wait till Fiat gets their hands on the next gen Wrangler. The Wrangler will get 30mpg and work for soccer moms but the real Jeep people will be holding on to their CJ's, YJ's, TJ's, and JK's.
                      The new Wrangler will get 30 mpg simply from the VM 3.0 diesel engine...but we are scared of the potential for Fiat to screw it up...
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                      • #12
                        That would be cool if you could get the frame and take your body and drive train and install it on there. Then we could have the stronger frame, with hopefully better towing capability, and reuse our own stuff without having to rebuy everything. And, maybe this way we could just keep it registered with the existing VIN.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MoparNorm View Post
                          The new Wrangler will get 30 mpg simply from the VM 3.0 diesel engine...but we are scared of the potential for Fiat to screw it up...
                          As long as Mark Allen is there we are fine

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                          • #14
                            Hello,

                            sorry to digg out this old topic, but can anyone tell me what exactly had been done to the basic wrangler chassis to get it stronger?

                            Are the frame rails bigger, the material thicker? Or are there some kind of plates weldet on the most important parts?

                            Since there are some variants of the J8 going up to 10.000lbs, which is indeed the Heavy duty truck range, not to mention the J8 is a real offroad truck not just for bad roads, i guess there has been much changing?


                            Greetings

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                            • #15
                              Good questions. I too am curious.

                              Heres the J8 2 door cargo spec. But no answers to those questions.

                              http://www.jgms.com/resource/d4541e3...1efcf8e1eb.pdf

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